MZM Randomizer

[Anyway]

If you're  having trouble with diagonals, keep in mind they are and function almost exactly the same as a normal bomb jump. The only difference is you need to be on the right or left of the bomb explosion, and hold either left or right when jumping. A little practice will go a long way.

you're assuming I can perfectly execute vertical infinite/double bombjumps, which I also cannot. I'm really sorry if I sound entitled or whiny, but I'm having a lot of trouble with getting things that are all about timing correctly done. Which is why I was asking for this one minor change.

My biggest gripe is mostly with locations that are really a pain to get to if you fail the bombjump once, like the room right of the elevator in norfair or the vanilla varia room, where in both there are bombable blocks underneath where you're supposed to do the bomb jump, also, even worse is the ridley path in upper norfair where there are crumbing blocks directly underneath the entry, which also has to be opened up with a missile. If I fail this jump, I have to walk the entire icebeam tunnel again, just to attempt it once more. And this is what I mean with "it gets frustrating".

I do have another find, I have gotten myself softlocked in the longbeam room today, with having charge beam being there, and screw attack in the vanilla first missile container.

[biospark]

New version!

Download
1.1.0 - 2018-01-12
  - Fixed Power Bomb placement when "Obtain unknown items" is selected
  - Settings aren't reset after randomizing
  - Added option to skip suitless sequence
  - Fixed requirements for Long Beam's item
  - Added automatic conversion for older settings

[samthedigital]

I'm starting to see why you didn't have fixed requirements for long beam's items before. In any case thanks for the romhack and the update.

edit: 1.1 seed that can't be completed again 2006813064 T7Y3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA5Bol7B

[LordAlu]

Hello all o/

Should have done this sooner but I kept forgetting!

I've made a web-based tracker for randomiser that players can use either when streaming or offline, to keep track of the items collected as they play. It's been up on the Zero Mission speedrunning Discord for a few weeks now and I've been meaning to post it here but kept forgetting.

You can download the latest version here -> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c5GKbUyiuGio-_L7QyC43EYMRWImnbRg/view, or I've also attached it to this post.

There are different styles of tracker from a fancy-looking one that uses the same graphics as the ZM Status Screen, to a simple style in 3x5, 4x4 or 5x3 blocks.

Simply extract the .zip wherever you like and then run the "launcher.html" file to see instructions and the various ones you can use. If you want to use it while streaming, you can just use Window Capture, or failing that the OBS Browser Source.

If I update it I'll post it here, or if anyone has any suggestions let me know and I'll see what I can do.  :^_^:

[FelixWright]

Zero Mission speedrunning Discord

Where can I find this?

[biospark]

edit: 1.1 seed that can't be completed again 2006813064 T7Y3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA5Bol7B

That actually can be completed. I've done it before.

I've made a web-based tracker for randomiser that players can use either when streaming or offline, to keep track of the items collected as they play.

If you'd like, I can put this on the same website where the randomizer is hosted.

[LordAlu]

Where can I find this?

I've PM'd you an invite.

If you'd like, I can put this on the same website where the randomizer is hosted.

Sure, you're more than welcome to :^_^:

[pokedude14]

To add on to what Anyway said,

Maybe have difficulty options:

Easy- higher chance of Speed booster, Power Grip, etc. in the early power up locations

Normal- What we have now.

[samthedigital]

There's an option to leave some items in their vanilla location if you really can't live without Power Grip or some other item. An easy mode doesn't sound that interesting. If you're finding a lot of good items early there's not going to be as much variance, and there won't be as much incentive to play more than once or twice.

[OneOf99]

You can beat the game with bare essentials. You just have to have some skilled wall jumps and bomb jumps. I remember that I once had power grip spawn in the pre-Mecha laser puzzle :(

[Axodo]

After a month playing the rando, I'm finally posting here. Huge thanks for this, I have a lot of fun with it. I love it, thanks a lot

[Nicholas Steel]

Very nice stuff, I heard you're considering a version that avoids soft-locks which is neat because that's the kind of Randomizer I like to play most. After giving the current version a few tries I've come up with 3 suggestions:

1) An option to limit how late the Power Grip upgrade can be placed, in my current run it's placed in the dangerous Chozodia Ruins. Why do I suggest this option? It will help avoid the need to perform tedious multi-bomb jumps to reach tunnels. The game annoyingly cuts your upwards momentum short the instant you try to enter Morph Ball form during a jump which makes it difficult/impossible to jump & morph-ball in to several tunnels in the game, making the multi-bomb jump method the main viable method of accessing these tunnels.

Alternatively an option to stop morph ball transformation from cutting short your jump height.

Your jump momentum is also weirdly cut short if you exit a Spin Jump by shooting.

2) An option to have the Ice Beam placed in or before Norfair to prevent the player from being unable to backtrack without acquiring Screw Attack. This would also be beneficial for those seeking a significantly easier experience since it gives them the ability to freeze enemies of course.

3) Append the Seed number to the file name.

[Cpt.Glitch]

1) An option to limit how late the Power Grip upgrade can be placed,

You are able to make any item of your choosing not randomize if you can't live without it. The README explains how to do so I believe.

2) An option to have the Ice Beam placed in or before Norfair to prevent the player from being unable to backtrack without acquiring Screw Attack.

If you have Supers you can kill the rippers and leave norfair.

[Nicholas Steel]

I'd still like the items to be randomized, just with some control in what areas the logic would discount when deciding where to place them. I understand this isn't simple to implement.

[OneOf99]

I understand this isn't simple to implement.

I mean you said it yourself. Personally I'd rather more MAGE than just the rando improvements, and the logic is not something easy to change in the slightest (especially with stuff like this)

[Nicholas Steel]

What do you mean by MAGE?

[MetroidNerd#9001]

MAGE is the editor for the GBA Metroid Games. It is the equivalent of SMILE for Super Metroid, or Editroid for NEStroid.

[FelixWright]

MAGE is the editor for the GBA Metroid Games. It is the equivalent of SMILE for Super Metroid, or Editroid for NEStroid.

This, but MAGE is a much easier and more stable editor to use than SMILE

[Nicholas Steel]

2) An option to have the Ice Beam placed in or before Norfair to prevent the player from being unable to backtrack without acquiring Screw Attack.

If you have Supers you can kill the rippers and leave norfair.

Wow, after all my time playing this game I didn't know that, thanks.

[Nicholas Steel]

I can't seem to beat this:

Seed: 600537958
Settings: ymY3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwJAolbB
100% beatable

I don't seem to be able to get Gravity Suit, Speed Booster, Space Jump, Screw Attack nor High Jump...

Code Select Expand

Seed: 600537958
Settings: ymY3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwJAolbB

Items: All
0   Brinstar  (0, 15)   Morph Ball
1   Brinstar  (5, 14)   Missile Tank
2   Brinstar  (6, 6)    Bomb
3   Brinstar  (7, 15)   Super Missile Tank
4   Brinstar  (9, 11)   Missile Tank
5   Brinstar  (9, 12)   Missile Tank
6   Brinstar  (11, 3)   Missile Tank
7   Brinstar  (11, 12)  Super Missile Tank
8   Brinstar  (14, 2)   Power Bomb Tank
9   Brinstar  (14, 12)  Super Missile Tank
10  Brinstar  (16, 3)   Missile Tank
11  Brinstar  (16, 12)  Missile Tank
12  Brinstar  (17, 7)   Missile Tank
13  Brinstar  (17, 10)  Varia Suit
14  Brinstar  (22, 8)   Missile Tank
15  Brinstar  (23, 4)   Energy Tank
16  Brinstar  (23, 6)   Energy Tank
17  Brinstar  (24, 6)   Power Grip
18  Brinstar  (24, 8)   Charge Beam
19  Kraid     (3, 5)    Missile Tank
20  Kraid     (6, 6)    Missile Tank
21  Kraid     (7, 9)    Missile Tank
22  Kraid     (7, 12)   Power Bomb Tank
23  Kraid     (7, 14)   Missile Tank
24  Kraid     (8, 8)    Space Jump
25  Kraid     (8, 15)   Missile Tank
26  Kraid     (11, 4)   Super Missile Tank
27  Kraid     (11, 6)   Missile Tank
28  Kraid     (12, 10)  Energy Tank
29  Kraid     (13, 2)   Missile Tank
30  Kraid     (13, 7)   Super Missile Tank
31  Kraid     (15, 4)   Super Missile Tank
32  Norfair   (3, 11)   Missile Tank
33  Norfair   (4, 12)   Energy Tank
34  Norfair   (6, 7)    Missile Tank
35  Norfair   (8, 7)    Missile Tank
36  Norfair   (10, 5)   Power Bomb Tank
37  Norfair   (10, 6)   Missile Tank
38  Norfair   (10, 12)  Missile Tank
39  Norfair   (11, 6)   Power Bomb Tank
40  Norfair   (11, 13)  Power Bomb Tank
41  Norfair   (13, 13)  Energy Tank
42  Norfair   (14, 6)   Speed Booster
43  Norfair   (15, 10)  Missile Tank
44  Norfair   (17, 10)  Missile Tank
45  Norfair   (18, 3)   Super Missile Tank
46  Norfair   (19, 2)   Missile Tank
47  Norfair   (19, 8)   Missile Tank
48  Norfair   (20, 4)   Missile Tank
49  Norfair   (21, 1)   Super Missile Tank
50  Norfair   (21, 11)  Power Bomb Tank
51  Norfair   (22, 8)   Missile Tank
52  Norfair   (22, 11)  Missile Tank
53  Ridley    (3, 8)    Missile Tank
54  Ridley    (3, 9)    Missile Tank
55  Ridley    (4, 6)    Super Missile Tank
56  Ridley    (5, 7)    Missile Tank
57  Ridley    (6, 7)    Energy Tank
58  Ridley    (7, 3)    Missile Tank
59  Ridley    (8, 4)    Missile Tank
60  Ridley    (8, 5)    Missile Tank
61  Ridley    (9, 1)    Missile Tank
62  Ridley    (9, 4)    Energy Tank
63  Ridley    (9, 5)    Energy Tank
64  Ridley    (10, 8)   Missile Tank
65  Ridley    (12, 5)   Super Missile Tank
66  Ridley    (13, 5)   Missile Tank
67  Ridley    (14, 4)   Super Missile Tank
68  Ridley    (16, 6)   Missile Tank
69  Ridley    (17, 7)   Missile Tank
70  Ridley    (19, 2)   Super Missile Tank
71  Ridley    (22, 7)   Gravity Suit
72  Ridley    (24, 5)   Missile Tank
73  Tourian   (17, 11)  Missile Tank
74  Tourian   (19, 12)  Missile Tank
75  Crateria  (9, 4)    Missile Tank
76  Crateria  (14, 6)   Missile Tank
77  Crateria  (17, 8)   Long Beam
78  Crateria  (19, 5)   Energy Tank
79  Crateria  (20, 5)   Missile Tank
80  Crateria  (21, 5)   Power Bomb Tank
81  Crateria  (22, 2)   Hi-Jump
82  Chozodia  (4, 18)   Missile Tank
83  Chozodia  (4, 21)   Energy Tank
84  Chozodia  (6, 21)   Missile Tank
85  Chozodia  (7, 19)   Wave Beam
86  Chozodia  (10, 7)   Energy Tank
87  Chozodia  (10, 8)   Missile Tank
88  Chozodia  (10, 9)   Plasma Beam
89  Chozodia  (10, 18)  Missile Tank
90  Chozodia  (11, 13)  Screw Attack
91  Chozodia  (14, 5)   Ice Beam
92  Chozodia  (15, 4)   Super Missile Tank
93  Chozodia  (15, 13)  Super Missile Tank
94  Chozodia  (17, 8)   Missile Tank
95  Chozodia  (18, 7)   Power Bomb Tank
96  Chozodia  (20, 7)   Power Bomb Tank
97  Chozodia  (21, 15)  Energy Tank
98  Chozodia  (22, 2)   Super Missile Tank
99  Chozodia  (26, 14)  Missile Tank

Palettes: Unchanged


[OneOf99]

I can't seem to beat this:

Seed: 600537958
Settings: ymY3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwJAolbB

I don't seem to be able to get Gravity Suit, Speed Booster, Space Jump, Screw Attack nor High Jump...
[spoiler]

Code Select Expand

Seed: 600537958
Settings: ymY3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwJAolbB

Items: All
0   Brinstar  (0, 15)   Morph Ball
1   Brinstar  (5, 14)   Missile Tank
2   Brinstar  (6, 6)    Bomb
3   Brinstar  (7, 15)   Super Missile Tank
4   Brinstar  (9, 11)   Missile Tank
5   Brinstar  (9, 12)   Missile Tank
6   Brinstar  (11, 3)   Missile Tank
7   Brinstar  (11, 12)  Super Missile Tank
8   Brinstar  (14, 2)   Power Bomb Tank
9   Brinstar  (14, 12)  Super Missile Tank
10  Brinstar  (16, 3)   Missile Tank
11  Brinstar  (16, 12)  Missile Tank
12  Brinstar  (17, 7)   Missile Tank
13  Brinstar  (17, 10)  Varia Suit
14  Brinstar  (22, 8)   Missile Tank
15  Brinstar  (23, 4)   Energy Tank
16  Brinstar  (23, 6)   Energy Tank
17  Brinstar  (24, 6)   Power Grip
18  Brinstar  (24, 8)   Charge Beam
19  Kraid     (3, 5)    Missile Tank
20  Kraid     (6, 6)    Missile Tank
21  Kraid     (7, 9)    Missile Tank
22  Kraid     (7, 12)   Power Bomb Tank
23  Kraid     (7, 14)   Missile Tank
24  Kraid     (8, 8)    Space Jump
25  Kraid     (8, 15)   Missile Tank
26  Kraid     (11, 4)   Super Missile Tank
27  Kraid     (11, 6)   Missile Tank
28  Kraid     (12, 10)  Energy Tank
29  Kraid     (13, 2)   Missile Tank
30  Kraid     (13, 7)   Super Missile Tank
31  Kraid     (15, 4)   Super Missile Tank
32  Norfair   (3, 11)   Missile Tank
33  Norfair   (4, 12)   Energy Tank
34  Norfair   (6, 7)    Missile Tank
35  Norfair   (8, 7)    Missile Tank
36  Norfair   (10, 5)   Power Bomb Tank
37  Norfair   (10, 6)   Missile Tank
38  Norfair   (10, 12)  Missile Tank
39  Norfair   (11, 6)   Power Bomb Tank
40  Norfair   (11, 13)  Power Bomb Tank
41  Norfair   (13, 13)  Energy Tank
42  Norfair   (14, 6)   Speed Booster
43  Norfair   (15, 10)  Missile Tank
44  Norfair   (17, 10)  Missile Tank
45  Norfair   (18, 3)   Super Missile Tank
46  Norfair   (19, 2)   Missile Tank
47  Norfair   (19, 8)   Missile Tank
48  Norfair   (20, 4)   Missile Tank
49  Norfair   (21, 1)   Super Missile Tank
50  Norfair   (21, 11)  Power Bomb Tank
51  Norfair   (22, 8)   Missile Tank
52  Norfair   (22, 11)  Missile Tank
53  Ridley    (3, 8)    Missile Tank
54  Ridley    (3, 9)    Missile Tank
55  Ridley    (4, 6)    Super Missile Tank
56  Ridley    (5, 7)    Missile Tank
57  Ridley    (6, 7)    Energy Tank
58  Ridley    (7, 3)    Missile Tank
59  Ridley    (8, 4)    Missile Tank
60  Ridley    (8, 5)    Missile Tank
61  Ridley    (9, 1)    Missile Tank
62  Ridley    (9, 4)    Energy Tank
63  Ridley    (9, 5)    Energy Tank
64  Ridley    (10, 8)   Missile Tank
65  Ridley    (12, 5)   Super Missile Tank
66  Ridley    (13, 5)   Missile Tank
67  Ridley    (14, 4)   Super Missile Tank
68  Ridley    (16, 6)   Missile Tank
69  Ridley    (17, 7)   Missile Tank
70  Ridley    (19, 2)   Super Missile Tank
71  Ridley    (22, 7)   Gravity Suit
72  Ridley    (24, 5)   Missile Tank
73  Tourian   (17, 11)  Missile Tank
74  Tourian   (19, 12)  Missile Tank
75  Crateria  (9, 4)    Missile Tank
76  Crateria  (14, 6)   Missile Tank
77  Crateria  (17, 8)   Long Beam
78  Crateria  (19, 5)   Energy Tank
79  Crateria  (20, 5)   Missile Tank
80  Crateria  (21, 5)   Power Bomb Tank
81  Crateria  (22, 2)   Hi-Jump
82  Chozodia  (4, 18)   Missile Tank
83  Chozodia  (4, 21)   Energy Tank
84  Chozodia  (6, 21)   Missile Tank
85  Chozodia  (7, 19)   Wave Beam
86  Chozodia  (10, 7)   Energy Tank
87  Chozodia  (10, 8)   Missile Tank
88  Chozodia  (10, 9)   Plasma Beam
89  Chozodia  (10, 18)  Missile Tank
90  Chozodia  (11, 13)  Screw Attack
91  Chozodia  (14, 5)   Ice Beam
92  Chozodia  (15, 4)   Super Missile Tank
93  Chozodia  (15, 13)  Super Missile Tank
94  Chozodia  (17, 8)   Missile Tank
95  Chozodia  (18, 7)   Power Bomb Tank
96  Chozodia  (20, 7)   Power Bomb Tank
97  Chozodia  (21, 15)  Energy Tank
98  Chozodia  (22, 2)   Super Missile Tank
99  Chozodia  (26, 14)  Missile Tank

Palettes: Unchanged
[/spoiler]

What settings did you use? The item placement is different depending on settings, after all.

[Nicholas Steel]

Here you go (I verified this generates the same Seed, Settings and item placement values in the spoiler log). I can't attach a image file so I had to compress it in to an archive.

[Cpt.Glitch]

You only need morph, missiles, and bombs to beat the game. (Minus the items in the unknown items locations, as those need to be grabbed to progress in certain spots.) So judging from the log you posted, it should be completeable.

[Nicholas Steel]

While that is true (I can access Mecha Ridley now if I wanted), if you looked at the image you'll see I chose the option for 100% completion being possible.

Edit: It's been 1 year and I find my next couple of posts baffling to me.

[biospark]

I can't seem to beat this:

Seed: 600537958
Settings: ymY3AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwJAolbB

Turns out there's a problem with my item requirements for the item in the lava after the chozo ghost fight. If you don't have gravity, you need power grip and hi-jump to reach it. The hi-jump requirement is missing. I'll fix this in the next version.