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Let's get this shit straight from a 3rd person perspective.

Started by Seiklus, June 08, 2013, 12:18:50 AM

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Seiklus

Felonies:
1. No warez - That means no links, no cracks, no ROMs at all. Offenses of this manner are likely to result in a ban.

2. No trolling/flaming - Flaming is the act of deliberately insulting forum members to try and evoke a response (also known as a flame war.) The opposite is trolling, which is the act of deliberately upsetting users so as to make them flame you. Neither shall be tolerated in the slightest, earning a user at best a warning and/or a temporary ban.

3. No explicit material - The forum is easily accessible to anyone ranging from 8 to 80 years old, and as such, explicit material is not allowed in any way, shape, or form whatsoever. In the case of the arts boards, a certain level of explicit content is allowed (criteria for said level is to be determined by the moderation.) Of course, posting such content is quick means to reach a permanent ban.

4. No 1337-speak - "1337-speak" (leet) posts are simply not allowed, as said language is unintelligible garbage and considered clutter. Posts made entirely out of 1337-speak will be grounds for a ban.

5. No ban evading/contesting - While we may enjoy talking openly with our forum users, ban evading is simply not acceptable. Please do not create a new account or send us an e-mail asking why you were banned; ignorance of the types of crimes possible on the forum is most likely why you were banned in the first place. If you DO create a new account, we will know, and you shall be banned again. You are welcome, however, to come by our channel, #metconst on irc.esper.net, to discuss your ban if you truly and honestly do not understand why.

6. No e-mail/PM abuse - Using people's e-mail addresses to send them threats, send them advertisements for your site, sign them up to receive junk mail, etc. is simply intolerable, and is a bannable offense. This also applies to the Private Message feature of the forum, as well as abusing it to spam and/or ask other members questions you can easily research for yourself.

7. No Plagiarism - This is a big one. We do not tolerate claiming one another's work as their own - be it a hack, patch, tileset, wallpaper, etcetera. If a claim of said crime comes up, we will investigate the matter as much as we possibly can and rule as thus. Violators should assume that they will receive some of the heaviest punishments available if they commit plagiarism in any form.

8. Insubordination - Generally, each and every Mod and Admin on the forums has his or her own style of doing things, and shall issue rulings as they see fit should a user commit any of "The Recognized Forum Crimes." Insubordination is simply ignoring a Mod's or Admin's ruling, and in most cases is not tolerable. If you oh-so very strongly disagree with what a Mod or Global Mod says, go above their head. If they're an Admin, too bad.



:..:. banned for...


1) He never posted any links, cracks, etc. Invalid ban reason.

2) He never tried to legitimately FLAME someone, if you're willing to go more in depth on the definition. The extent of what he did was create a few 'silly' posts, and those didn't rile up any flamewars anyway, so what's there to talk about? Here's another fact you mentioned, you said that breaking this rule can EARN THE USER AT BEST A WARNING, OR A TEMPORARY BAN. Never did it mention permabans, so this can't be the reason for which you banned him for either.

3) He never posted any porn, basically... Invalid ban reason.

4) Never happened. Invalid ban reason.

5) You obviously can't ban someone for ban evading before they got banned. This discussion is about why he got banned BEFORE this account/thread was made, so this rule can simply not come into question if we were to talk about the past. Not asking for you to unban :..:., since this is probably what puts the nail in the coffin from this point on, but clarification would be nice. What I'm trying to say is that he was not banned for this reason since, before he got banned, he never ban evaded on these forums. Invalid ban reason.

6) He never sent any emails to any member of these forums. The PM's he sent weren't the least bit 'threatening' and had no links, either. How is saying "hello" considered spam?
Definition of spam: Send the same message indiscriminately to (large numbers of recipients) on the Internet. He clearly didn't send "hello" to a million people here, only 2, if not 1, at best. I'm putting into question as to whether or not sending 1-2 PM's saying hello is a bannable offense, so this can't be the reason, can it?

7) His engine was 100% created by him, besides platform engine and sprites, which he never claimed to be his own. This rule is simply out of this discussion.

8) Ah, see, you banned him based on your own merit, but the thing you forgot to mention was that this rule doesn't come into question unless -
Quoteshould a user commit any of "The Recognized Forum Crimes"
, which suggests that you banned him for breaking one of the 7 crimes above, and so far, none of those rules, as far as I'm concerned, have been truly broken.

So what gives? Why did you ban :..:.?



inb4 you reply with a crappy response saying "This is our forum and we do what we want" or "We don't like you, go away" in an attempt to deflect any responsibility you carry on your shoulders.


interdpth

Who got banned? You did? Damn that sucks.
Get off the internet.

begrimed

You were banned because your reputation proceeds you outside of this community, which you demonstrated wonderfully by posting like a retard. Why are you even here?

Seiklus

Quote from: interdpth on June 08, 2013, 12:21:48 AM
Who got banned? You did? Damn that sucks.
Get off the internet.



This is our moderator, people. The true hand of justice, the articulator against all evil. Truly the words of a wise man, one whom talks down upon his loyal servants as "squire" or "gentleman", a man of the highest levels of education. You are truly worthy to be acclaimed as "Super Moderator".


Douchebag.


Who the fuck made him a moderator?

Seiklus

Quote from: Grime on June 08, 2013, 12:26:42 AM
You were banned because your reputation proceeds you outside of this community, which you demonstrated wonderfully by posting like a retard. Why are you even here?

"Posting like a retard" is bannable? How about you actually revisit the list of forum rules you have in place and add that in, because that sure as hell wasn't on the list when :..:. got banned. And where, in that list of forum rules, does it say that having a reputation is bannable too?

Oh, and saying "retard" is offensive to some people. A high class elitistic moderator such as yourself should understand that.

Digital_Mantra

As a banned member from a previous metroid forum, I think you're all right.

begrimed

Obviously the rules can't account for every possible variable of shithead that crawls in here. But let's be real, nobody here really likes you (edit: except DMan). The fact that you choose to go from spamming a help topic with very intentionally unhelpful and poorly written posts, to becoming more articulate and having a stick up your ass about rules kinda shows that you just enjoy the confrontation and attention it gives you. Get a pet or something, and come back when you learn how to meaningfully interact with people.

interdpth


Digital_Mantra


Seiklus

Quote from: Grime on June 08, 2013, 12:47:29 AM
Obviously the rules can't account for every possible variable of shithead that crawls in here. But let's be real, nobody here really likes you (edit: except DMan). The fact that you choose to go from spamming a help topic with very intentionally unhelpful and poorly written posts, to becoming more articulate and having a stick up your ass about rules kinda shows that you just enjoy the confrontation and attention it gives you. Get a pet or something, and come back when you learn how to meaningfully interact with people.


QuoteBut let's be real, nobody here really likes you

Stopped reading there. Don't put words in other people's mouths, and don't talk for others. Unless they come out and say that they don't like me, you can never be too sure. Your opinion is not fact. Being a moderator doesn't make your opinion a fact, either. I may come off an ass, but let's just say that you're coming off as a much bigger one. Ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

Quote58

hahaha you are the dumbest person.
thank you for wasting a whole thread on this totally absolutely subjective look at your-I mean :..:. banning.
Honestly none of your arguments hold any merit so as Inter so eloquently put it, get off the internet.

Edit: didn't see the last post.

Okay, I don't like you. Neither do most people, I wonder why....

P.JBoy

When he says 'let's be real', he's not declaring that he represents everyone's opinion, but rather stating that it's the logical conclusion, given the evidence and circumstances presented.

...

begrimed

QuoteDon't put words in other people's mouths, and don't talk for others. Unless they come out and say that they don't like me, you can never be too sure.
Everybody calling for you to be banned on IRC and generally mocking you right now makes me pretty sure.

QuoteBeing a moderator doesn't make your opinion a fact, either.
So far, every one of my opinions have turned into facts.

QuoteI may come off an ass, but let's just say that you're coming off as a much bigger one.
Yeah, 'cept everyone loves me.

FullOfFail

I don't know what's going on here, but getting banned from metconst is a task all in itself. If you got banned from the forums, odds are you deserved it.

interdpth

Quote from: Seiklus on June 08, 2013, 12:50:35 AM
Quote from: Grime on June 08, 2013, 12:47:29 AM
Obviously the rules can't account for every possible variable of shithead that crawls in here. But let's be real, nobody here really likes you (edit: except DMan). The fact that you choose to go from spamming a help topic with very intentionally unhelpful and poorly written posts, to becoming more articulate and having a stick up your ass about rules kinda shows that you just enjoy the confrontation and attention it gives you. Get a pet or something, and come back when you learn how to meaningfully interact with people.


QuoteBut let's be real, nobody here really likes you

Stopped reading there. Don't put words in other people's mouths, and don't talk for others. Unless they come out and say that they don't like me, you can never be too sure. Your opinion is not fact. Being a moderator doesn't make your opinion a fact, either. I may come off an ass, but let's just say that you're coming off as a much bigger one. Ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.


All I'm reading is

Seiklus


Zhs2

I feel like I'm the only dissenting opinion in the sea of faggots who just want to make fun of a random person via internet anonymity, but let's go over the shit we got here.

"Posting like a retard" can be shortened to "spam", and yes, your reputation does precede you. I also felt that you (or if you really want to do this, the member being discussed) being banned affected us very hardly at all. If you want to come back with petty arguments and ad hominem statements for my moderators, that really doesn't help your stance on this, does it? Neither does, for this matter, your ban evading. (Honestly, my moderators may be very confrontational, but at least I can trust them not to start shit rather than end it. Shut the fuck up Shadow and PJBoy.)

Now, if you want my thoughts on the matter, if you were to continue posting exactly as if you were never banned and had been a new member here (I might have simply been amused by your choice of entries for the very optional fields in your profile,) I might not have noticed you were actually AlexR or Dots or :..:. or whatever the fuck you want to be called. Now I have, and now it's too late. Good game, see you next mission.