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Hyper Metroid

Started by RealRed, April 17, 2015, 11:59:53 PM

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Zhs2

Look who has the euphemistic username, MetroidPeter :huzzah: :pewpew: :D!:

advancedpillow

All this hate for the death animation... I mean, I just can't.  :lol:

I like it. What I dislike, is when people try to censor someone else's artistic vision.

MetroidPeter

Quote from: foosda on June 04, 2015, 08:28:40 PM
Someone is getting needlessly upset with someone else's design decision. I'd honestly recommend taking a step back and wondering whether this is really worth the high blood pressure.

(takes a deep breath) I guess you're right foodsa, thanks. It just really irritates me whenever I see this kind of behavior, but I won't take it any further. Also, is this an insult?

Quote from: Zhs2 on June 04, 2015, 08:37:54 PM
Look who has the euphemistic username, MetroidPeter :huzzah: :pewpew: :D!:

Because if it is, I'm not fazed.

Quote58

Quote from: MetroidPeter on June 04, 2015, 08:23:43 PM
The anger of my face-palm outmatches the frustration of all face-palms. I am just sorely disappointed with what I'm reading.

"I don't really see a problem with it." GEE, I WONDER WHY...! And I'm aware the developers were gonna have her naked originally, but they changed it in the final version. People make Samus a sex toy too much anyway.

Also, Grime... I am especially disappointed with you, I thought the creator of Project Base (which I love by the way) would be more mature than THIS:

Quote from: Grime on June 04, 2015, 05:25:25 PM
QuoteMy gonads are responsible for a lot more than making Samus die naked.

I like how you seem to have not understood any of what I said, and then made up a quote for it (please show me where anyone said that).

Also, "GEE, I WONDER WHY...!" <--lol, yes we're all of course sexually depraved, straight men who need to see 16 bit tits in our games. Calm down buddy.
"People make Samus a sex toy too much anyway." <--that has nothing to do with a decision which is not necessarily about objectifying her. If all you can see is a sex toy when there is a strong female character portrayed naked, then you need to take a step back because you clearly aren't able to look past base desires and stereotypes.

also with regard to your comment about grime:
[spoiler][/spoiler]


MetroidPeter

I didn't fabricate that quote, Grime actually did say that.

Boomerang

He wasn't talking about Grime's quote.

Phazos: True Phazon deity

oh wow. ok guys can we just calm down please.

And please don't attack me ok. I'm just trying to keep the peace.

Cpt.Glitch

My IQ dropped reading this discussion...

RealRed

If you die and see an object/toy rather than a woman, that's all you, isn't it?

There's nothing shameful or wrong about a naked human body. You might find, when you think about it, that there are quite a few of them on the planet.

I understand that people have made plenty of sexual images of samus. No shit! She's a female protagonist of a popular videogame series largely played by male teens. Something you'll just have to live with.

I touched up Grime's naked samus because I wanted it there. If you're offended, clearly our opinions on how things should be done don't line up. That happens to me a lot with a lot of people, but that's just how it is living among 6 billion individuals and all.

Lets get back to talking about Hyper Metroid now.

Quietus


MetroidPeter

Y'know, I think we should just drop this discussion too before someone gets moderated. And before people get all up and arms at me for starting this whole thing, any comments regarding this topic in the future will be ignored.

Parabox

Quote from: RealRed on June 05, 2015, 12:44:32 AM
If you die and see an object/toy rather than a woman, that's all you, isn't it?

Let's all ignore upbringing and society! There is only personal repsonsibility! /s
That's all I'm going to say on that matter.

Lunaria

Quote from: Quote58 on June 04, 2015, 06:23:21 PMAt most I'd say it's simply further realism and not feeling the need to cover up her body because people will be offended if they see a naked woman, because it's not like people are naked by nature or anything.
Now, I generally don't give a flying fuck about this discussion argument debate. But I'd like to point out that it's more unrealistic that samus is naked under the powersuit. A full body suit or some form of sports wear would make more logical sense for her to wear while in the powersuit. This has also been shown to be the case in all titles past super.

Is this a big deal though? Not really, this is just another hack on the internet. (Which controversially, is also a place where you can find real porn!)

Does this change add anything to the hack? Can't really say it does that either.

Quote from: RealRed on June 05, 2015, 12:44:32 AMLets get back to talking about Hyper Metroid now.
I thought that's what people have been doing, after all, this IS a feature of Hyper Metroid.  :>_>:



Also, try not insulting each other people~

foosda

Real porn is freely available? My god, all these years I've wasted...

Quote58

Quote from: Lunaria on June 05, 2015, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: Quote58 on June 04, 2015, 06:23:21 PMAt most I'd say it's simply further realism and not feeling the need to cover up her body because people will be offended if they see a naked woman, because it's not like people are naked by nature or anything.
Now, I generally don't give a flying fuck about this discussion argument debate. But I'd like to point out that it's more unrealistic that samus is naked under the powersuit. A full body suit or some form of sports wear would make more logical sense for her to wear while in the powersuit. This has also been shown to be the case in all titles past super.

Is this a big deal though? Not really, this is just another hack on the internet. (Which controversially, is also a place where you can find real porn!)

I wasn't saying it was realistic for her to only have the power suit on, I was saying the reality is that she is a woman, and a human being. I think that feeling the need to show that she has clothes on when dieing is silly, and shows a fear of how the public will be offended by someone being naked.
When samus dies, her power suit explodes and shatters off of her, so I'd also like to point out that's it's not realistic for her to have fully intact clothing on after that.
Once again I'll say that I personally don't prefer her to be naked in death, but I do think that it can actually add to the experience if it isn't overly sexualized, which is isn't in the original final frame, nor is it in hyper metroid.

@parabox
"Let's all ignore upbringing and society!" <--then how will society ever change? If we simply say oh you're offended by the idea that a woman is seen naked in a non-sexual context? Don't worry we'll censor it so you don't have to bring into question your view of the human body!

The fact is, she is not in a sexually provocative position in the death animation, because it's not about her being sexuallized. It's about her being a woman, a human who is vulnerable to death like all of us.








Digital_Mantra

I think it's beautiful..
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Daltone

Quote from: WindowHead on June 05, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
I think it's beautiful..
[spoiler][/spoiler]

...and then I came anyway

watsonsword

#392
I think it's worth repeating the few non-spoiler comments I put in my spoilers.

Absolutely amazing hack! With a little TLC, a few more versions, it will be the best ever made.

But until then, there are a few minor mistakes. There's one medium mistake in Gold Torizo--as someone else said, it's nothing but a glorified HP check.

But there is one major mistake: Draygon. No matter how I prepare, even with all the sequence breaks I can muster, I CANNOT beat Draygon without slowmo.

RT-55J

Quote from: Quote58 on June 05, 2015, 09:40:12 PMI wasn't saying it was realistic for her to only have the power suit on, I was saying the reality is that she is a woman, and a human being.

I'm pretty sure she's a fictional character, meaning that in reality she's merely the figamentation of somebody's imagination.

Anywho, MetroidPeter, Grime released a recensoring patch for Samus' death animation in the Project Base thread last time somebody (rightfully, imo) complained about this change. I haven't tested it out, but it should work on top of Hyper Metroid without a hitch.

(The real question here should be why has no one implement a Nestroid-style death animation.)

Hitaka

Quote from: watsonsword on June 05, 2015, 11:21:48 PM
But there is one major mistake: Draygon. No matter how I prepare, even with all the sequence breaks I can muster, I CANNOT beat Draygon without slowmo.
[spoiler]1. Get Screw Attack
2. Hover invincibly til she spits goo
3. Shoot the piss out of her with supers or IWSP
4. ???
5. Profit[/spoiler]

advancedpillow

Yo RR, I just killed Kraid, (doing a second run). I noticed his hand moves behind his body as he collapses offscreen after you kill him. Maybe you already know this.

Lunaria

Quote from: Quote58 on June 05, 2015, 09:40:12 PMI wasn't saying it was realistic for her to only have the power suit on, I was saying the reality is that she is a woman, and a human being.
Ah, I see, that's another matter entirely. :P

Quote from: Quote58 on June 05, 2015, 09:40:12 PMWhen samus dies, her power suit explodes and shatters off of her, so I'd also like to point out that's it's not realistic for her to have fully intact clothing on after that.
That's true, they would most likely break, much like, you know, her body. There are many ways one can do this to try and make it more realistic. Though personally, I don't consider it to be something that is worth the time and effort; Since really, it does not add much at all to the game.

Quietus

So, having kept abreast of this conversation, it seems that a fair few people seem to think that RealRed made a boob. Jokes aside, it seems petty, especially since Grime has already posted a fix. Besides, it wasn't the boobs that got me, it was the clean shaven, 16-bit  mons veneris. :blush:

RealRed

Quote from: Hitaka on June 06, 2015, 01:43:55 AM
Quote from: watsonsword on June 05, 2015, 11:21:48 PM
But there is one major mistake: Draygon. No matter how I prepare, even with all the sequence breaks I can muster, I CANNOT beat Draygon without slowmo.
[spoiler]1. Get Screw Attack
2. Hover invincibly til she spits goo
3. Shoot the piss out of her with supers or IWSP
4. ???
5. Profit[/spoiler]
You can also [spoiler]use powerbombs?!?!?[/spoiler]
People who get pissed after two seconds of not winning and activate savestates and rewinds and slowdowns instead of playing the game and finding a strategy are

Quote from: advancedpillow on June 06, 2015, 03:15:10 AM
Yo RR, I just killed Kraid, (doing a second run). I noticed his hand moves behind his body as he collapses offscreen after you kill him. Maybe you already know this.
Known forever. No clue how to fix it, it's a side effect of putting kraid in front of the new background.

Quote from: Quietus on June 06, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
So, having kept abreast of this conversation, it seems that a fair few people seem to think that RealRed made a boob. Jokes aside, it seems petty, especially since Grime has already posted a fix. Besides, it wasn't the boobs that got me, it was the clean shaven, 16-bit  mons veneris. :blush:
Knock it off, Quietus.

scotticus1

Hey there, terrific hack so far. I came here to report a glitch I found with Ridley. He got stuck in the left side of the central platform while pogoing. I was on the right side and he was facing the left entrance. Once he got stuck I was free to unload charged shots until he was out of HP. He then became unstuck, picked up Samus and did the usual death animation. Really strange, I wish I had footage of it.