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[Grime]

Here's what I got. I made sure the format the green text as it would look in SMILE's box and in-game. Some ASM will be needed to use parts of the intro for the game's ending (after 100% items are collected).  I haven't written anything down on them yet, but I would like single screens of green text to be able to cue after entering certain doors. I'm thinking it will happen once and only once whenever Samus enters a new area for the first time. More on that later, I guess. Feedback time.

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[Black screen, Samus in the background, green text typing itself on-screen]
AN OLD FRIEND USED TO INSIST
THAT IF SOMETHING IS ALLOWED
TO GO WRONG, IT USUALLY DOES.
HE NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING
ABOUT HOW WRONG IT COULD GO.
I HAD TO LEARN THAT MYSELF.

<MOVIE1> [Maybe change the MOVIE1 screen's graphics to an easier-to-draw space map? One that shows the station and one that shows Zebes (whatever it's renamed to), with the station indicated as the destination. "DESTINATION" with an arrow pointing to it would do the trick.]

[CUE SAMUS FLYING INTO CERES IF SOMEBODY DOES IT]
In Ceres: The elevator shaft in the beginning can remain unchanged if it's too difficult to edit extensively. Room design can be however the maker wants. Samus fights Ridley in a room with dead bodies and Phazon everywhere if possible. Broken shit in the background would be a neat. Ridley takes a container with the hyper suit item inside instead of a screeching metroid. No timer or music change. Samus calmly makes her way back to the elevator platform and flies away from a non-exploding Ceres. If we wanna go all out, Ceres could be renamed or something and the graphic of it floating in space could be altered.

I BELIEVED THAT PHAZON WAS
FINALLY UNDER CONTROL, AND
THAT METROIDS WERE NO LONGER
BEING EXPLOITED.
BUT IT SEEMS I TOOK ON MORE
THAN JUST A BOUNTY THIS TIME.

THE TIMING COULD NOT HAVE
BEEN WORSE! I WAS RECEIVING
A CRITICAL NEW SUIT UPDATE.
A PERFECTED P.E.D THAT HAD
NO RISK AND NO TIME LIMIT.
I WAS OPTIMISTIC, AT LEAST.

<MOVIE3> [Modified version of the space map drawn for MOVIE1, with the "DESTINATION" pointing to the planet she's going to on the map.]

I TRAILED RIDLEY UNTIL HE
LANDED ON A FAR AWAY PLANET
CALLED [WHATEVER].
THE SAME SOLAR SYSTEM THAT
ZEBES WAS ONCE IN, NO LESS!
AND DREADFULLY CLOSE...


<MOVIE2> [Shows Samus flying to the new planet, . Renamed Zebes with either a new palette or a different planet graphic entirely

[Samus plays through the whole game, doot de doot. She kills the last Phazon boss, and is advised to get to her ship on a time limit. An alternate roomstate makes an obvious blockade that prevents her from getting back to the ship, and is forced to frantically search for a way to get to it before time runs out. Time runs out because there's no way to get to it, screen blacks out. Cuts to another set of dialogue screens like in the beginning if 100% items are collected. If less than 100%, screen blacks out and the credits begin. At the very ending, when it tells the player item collection %, additional text says "CONGRATULATIONS! FIND 100% FOR FULL ENDING" or something.]

[100% ending dialogue]

IT TOOK AWHILE, BUT I WAS
ABLE TO DIG MY WAY THROUGH
AND GET TO MY SHIP UNHARMED.
AFTER SO MANY SUCCESSES
AGAINST THE SAME ODDS, I
WONDER IF IT'S REALLY OVER.

WITH MY SUIT NOW UPGRADED,
AND THE ENEMY THREAT OVER,
I WAS LEFT TO DO WHATEVER
I WANTED TO. WHAT DID I DO?
I WENT ON A FREAKIN' VACATION
TO THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, MAN!

<MOVIE3> [Stolen from the intro and used for the ending, instead. Cool, huh? Shows a picture of Zero Suit Samus on the beach or some other cool picture. Will need a good pixel artist to make this happen. That's assuming we actually go with the idea, haha. I couldn't think of anything better, so pitch ideas if needed.]

[squishy_ichigo]

me and Grime decided in irc that the planet to be explored this time around will be none other than Twin Tabula!

Canon planet exploration ftw?

edit: for those not in the knows of said planet:
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Tabula

[MelanyKoura]

Let's hope Samus doesn't somehow come down with "Twin Fever" if that is the setting.

[Crys]

I'm not sure I like the phazon idea... sure it's well know but... it's not very original. That's really the only complaint I have... story is not a big thing in metroid for me.

[Grime]

Yeah, I know the idea of Phazon in itself isn't all that original. Several hacks have worked with the idea in the past, but I think with all the effort going into this hack and from a number of different people, we can pull it off and attain the same kind of tense atmosphere that Prime was able to deliver in some parts. Just to clarify, Phazon will only play a small role in the hack, being confined to the areas in which it's mentioned. Something Samus stumbles onto en route to hunting Ridley down. It's not a focal point of the story, but more of a nod to the Prime games and Phazon concept itself.

The way I see it, Phazon isn't even being used for evil purposes in this world as it has been in the past by space pirates or anything. It just happens to infest a small part of the world and some of the enemies nearby.

If we're sticking with the idea that not even space pirates want to touch Twin Tabula because of the disease there, their graphics and sounds could be altered to resemble a new type of enemy. For the sake of simplicity, we're going to assume that Varia mostly protects against the twin fever. However, twin fever could be the cause of health drain in the "dark world" area and not Phazon, to even further lessen its impact on the game storyline.

[Crashtour99]

If we're sticking with the idea that not even space pirates want to touch Twin Tabula because of the disease there, their graphics and sounds could be altered to resemble a new type of enemy.

I could take care of the graphics part.  I had the idea of turning the pirates into elves for the x-mas hack but I didn't have enough time (and I still wanna see what I could turn em into, but I actually need space pirates for my hack).

twin fever could be the cause of health drain in the "dark world" area and not Phazon

You could always use JAM's Message box plm to announce just what it is that's hurting you in the room.  ;)   Something like "Warning: Biohazard Area".

[Grime]

I've never seen this message box PLM before, but that sounds nice. Would it be able to be used for more than one purpose? Like, in addition to the "Biohazard warning" area, could it be use elsewhere in the hack to deliver other quick messages to the player?

[Crashtour99]

Yep.   

From the notes that came with the patch:
Place PLM F2C3 to the room. When you touch it, the message will be displayed.
Set ID of message with low byte. To add new messages, use message patch by Kej. First new ID is 1D.
To display message when you just enter the room, use continuation PLM (red arrows) to expand area where messanger can be touched.

[Zhs2]

I've never seen this message box PLM before, but that sounds nice.

Someone hasn't been reading through the Metconst Collab Thread for interesting things. Mwahaha. Mwhahahaha. Mwahahahahahaha!

[MelanyKoura]

I apologize for essentially necro-ing a topic, but I only just took the time to re-read this part of the forum and something popped into my head.

If you're using Phazon in the story, I would assume this happens between Prime and Prime 3? Because keep the end of Prime 3 in mind. Namely because

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Phazon all across the universe is destroied once Phaze goes critical, thus no more Phazon anywhere.

At least that's what we're left to believe. I suppose we can take it with a grain of salt, but still.

Again, sorry for necro-ing a topic but I thought it'd be something to input if it hasn't already been considered (knowing my luck I'm probably at least a month too late).

[Crys]

Or we can just make a plot hole, really... <_< >_>

[Grime]

Not a problem, Melany.

Given the kind of items that will in the game, and yeah, the (small) presence of Phazon, taking place sometime between Prime and Prime 3 makes sense enough. For those deeply familiar with Metroid's storylines (which I am not, beyond the most broad strokes), where do you feel timeline-wise that this game would best take place, exactly? Never hurts to establish small details like this before the actual development begins.

[MelanyKoura]

Well given that in the original post you mention a P.E.D. at all would most likely suggest that Samus has used the PED Suit which was used

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and eventually disposed of in Prime 3 after the final fight with Dark Samus.

Though, with Phazon ending up how it did the PED Suit would be useless, as would any devices.

However I suppose if we took the ending with a grain of salt, it'd have to be after Prime 3 because that's the only time there is any mention of a PED Suit.

[DSO]

Well, it could be an "alternate universe" sort of thing, or else just a mental simulation running through her mind... maybe a dream?

[Quietus]

Agreed.  This doesn't have to fit in anywhere.  No other hack does, and I don't see that this has to be any different.  It's just another telling of the Super story / game.

[MelanyKoura]

That is true, a hack doesn't have to fit into the time line. However, if the person in charge of a hack's story wants the hack to fit into the time line for whatever reason, it's a good idea to think things over and see where you could possibly squeeze things in.

So I suppose my first question should have been, "Are you going to act within the bounds of established canon or is this just simply something that's there?"

I hope the last part of the question makes sense...

[Malpercio]

Well, it could be an "alternate universe" sort of thing

that would work great. Prime Hunters, anyone?